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Title: Jehovah's witnesses and blood transfusion
Description: Controversy


Che Guevara - January 12, 2007 04:02 PM (GMT)
There's currently a controversy in Canada about a family of Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusion for their early-born sextuplets, even though it might save their lives.

Any thoughts?


I'm usually quite liberal and I try to respect other people's religion, but in that case, I think that's another thing. When human lives are at stake, I believe we should always give the transfusions anyway, even to Jehovah's Witnesses. That's just too bad if they're unhappy: at least they'll be alive. The government should pass a law to make proper medical treatment compulsory for those who need it, even if it interferes with their religion.

jammyd01 - January 12, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
I'd agree with that, the health service is their to treat people and save lives. so that what it has to do

Deltasix - January 15, 2007 02:55 AM (GMT)
I dunno, its tough. I can even understand the reasoning for not wanting to accept blood transfusions, but still, I'm not sure. I wonder what the legal matters are involving a doctor who doesn't administer life saving treatment because of a religious objection.

To an extent I believe it can be sustained, I mean, we have DNR orders and all, why not this (just throwing out an hypothetical) ?

Zairik - January 21, 2007 01:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
But Ruge says the Bible makes it ''very clear that one is to abstain from blood,'' even if it is life-saving.


Want to know the source of that belief?

QUOTE (Jehovah's Witnesses- New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures - Acts 15:29)
(Jehovah's Witnesses- New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures - Acts 15:29)

29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Source


Please note: Jehovah's Witnesses are seen as a cult, and not part of what most people think of as more mainstream Christianity.


QUOTE
Acts 15:29 (King James Version)

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.


QUOTE
Acts 15:29 (New International Version)

29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.


Seems to be more closely related to abstaining from pagans and idol worshippers, and anything to do with them.

Intifada - January 26, 2007 12:20 PM (GMT)
This is what infuriates me about religion.

What right do the parents have to enforce their beliefs on their children, especially if it is going to get in the way of saving their lives?

Parents should allow their children to question everything and make their own decisions about such matters when they grow up.

Spurius - January 26, 2007 08:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Intifada @ Jan 26 2007, 07:20 AM)
This is what infuriates me about religion.

What right do the parents have to enforce their beliefs on their children, especially if it is going to get in the way of saving their lives?

Parents should allow their children to question everything and make their own decisions about such matters when they grow up.

Exactly.
If they're in a situation where they personally need blood, let them refuse it. However, when it comes in the way of another life, they should have no say, even if it is their child.
Although the children are just going to end up growing up getting brainwashed by their psyco parents, so were I in their situation, I'd rather die.

Deltasix - January 26, 2007 09:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Intifada @ Jan 26 2007, 07:20 AM)
Parents should allow their children to question everything and make their own decisions about such matters when they grow up.

Just out of curiosity, who signs a DNR order for a child?

Intifada - January 28, 2007 07:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deltasix @ Jan 26 2007, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE (Intifada @ Jan 26 2007, 07:20 AM)
Parents should allow their children to question everything and make their own decisions about such matters when they grow up.

Just out of curiosity, who signs a DNR order for a child?

DNRs are signed by the Doctor in all cases, I believe.

There needs to be witnesses, and things change depending on the situation.

For a child, I think the decision comes down to parental permission but there would be relevant discussion with the Medical team before any final decision is made.

RancerDS - January 28, 2007 09:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Intifada @ Jan 28 2007, 02:22 PM)
DNRs are signed by the Doctor in all cases, I believe.
<snip>

Yes, a doctor probably signs all DNR agreements, but the patient that didn't want to be resuscitated is the person that has to ask for/initiate it. Delta was probably asking when a child is involved, does either or both parents sign off on those?



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