First off, I'd like to apologize to all creationists out there, but I was amazed when I learned that 45% of Americans believed that the Earth was 6000 years old. Call me narrow-minded if you want, but I think creationism is a ridiculous theory. This said, I'm pretty sure all of us believe in the Big Bang and evolution, so my warning might be useless...


Take a look at this website. It's truly pathetic.

http://www.creationism.org/


Here are the articles:

http://www.creationism.org/articles/index.htm


One of the funniest articles is about dinosaurs:

http://www.creationism.org/topbar/dinosaurs.htm


EDIT: The FAQ is funny, too. ^_^

http://www.creationism.org/topbar/faq.htm



They don't even have realistic arguments! All they say is "God told us so", or "the previous generations told us so". They have no proof about anything they say, only far-fetched theories that even the Pope would laugh at.

Hmmm, the website isn't loading for me. Is it not working for anyone else right now?

Works fine for me. I'm not sure if its a real website or some kind of joke.

Looking at it, I don’t think it was meant as a joke. It’s basically what a lot of us believe. And your wrong about how there is no science and its all “God said so, so it’s true” (though he did, and it is). This site doesn’t look like it’s very well made to me though, my personal favorite is in the following link, and spells out the science better I think.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

I know what you mean by laughing though, I use to laugh at some of those ideas too until one day, I guess out of curiosity I looked at what they where saying, and showing with less preconceived notions in an attempt to understand. Then I stopped laughing, because it became clear that the fact I was taught in public school so many things that are so clearly wrong wasn’t funny, it was sad.

The thing is though, by the definition of what science is, it isn't science. Science is something that can be predicted and recreated. Creationism does not fit those two most basic criteria.

If you want to hold creationism (or creationist science, or intelligent design, same theory has evolved into differing names) as your personal point of view, thats fine, but its not a science.

Anyways, the site you listed seems mildly more respectable. The reason I called the original site a joke wasn't just because what they said, but also the layout seemed to have been done by a grade school class with an affinity for making people's eyes hurt.

Two points.

one
Being a “Black and White” kind of guy myself, this is one thing that I have to reverse on and say it depends on perspective. That is one definition of science but not an all encompassing one. Science is also a way of finding truth, even when can’t reasonably be recreated. Lots of things are considered science but can’t be observed or recreated. Science tries to describe the make up of the Sun and other stars, we cant really observe a great deal of the things believed about them scientifically, Atomic science is another good example, we cant really observe an atom , last I heard no one has ever seen one, we have some images that come really close but not yet. Yet Science says that there are protons, and neutrons, and electrons made up of quarks and strings etc. Evolution is supposed to also be a science, yet can you reproduce man evolving from other primates? I have yet to have some one show me a good example of one genetically distinctive species being observed evolving from another (I have asked many to show me this). Does that mean Evolution isn’t science? Which brings me to point two…

Two
I have to admit that Creation and some of the best proofs of creation get so much into religion that it is fair to question it as a science. For instance one valid argument for anything except creation apparently is historical evidences. It seems that unless you have faith in God its in a persons genetic make up to not accept any aspect of the bible as historical, since having faith is definitely religious its not accepted as science. But if you can for a moment shed the need for faith and look only at what is there, we do have a book written so long ago it is one of the oldest written documents known to man, certainly the oldest in common use, and is of great historic value. Looking at the things it describes and the physical evidence we have today, they often come together, and never separate. For instance we have in it a story of a flood that kills almost all life on Earth; along with that we have similar stories from every part of the world of that same apocalyptic flood. Yet for some reason when we see layers of earth full of fossils it must represent millions of years of evolution, the flood never comes to mind. When those same layers sometimes mix having species that evolution says lived millions of year apart together in the same layer, when they flip showing species living before their assumed ancestors, or when a fossilized tree stand from top to bottom (did they live for million of years fossilizing from top to bottom?) all these things are shoved into the scientific, or rather evolutionary broom closet. Ignored forgotten, and even feared to be spoken of.

When you look at all the facts that supports Creation, and how those same facts have to be manipulated or twisted, or even hidden to allow Creation, When you look at how Creation the results of Creation, if not creation itself can be observed every day, yet evolution can not and never has been observed. I have to ask, How is Evolution (Macro) considered science?

We can always agree on something. Yea that was one ugly web site wasn’t it?

The evolution/creationism is an old debate that can be found elsewhere on this board, and not one that I want to really re-hash.
I would propose to you to think about on your own time, though, that Evolution itself is not theory, but a scientific law. Its a fact. What is a theory is the mechanics of evolution itself.

Do I really want to go and bring up a bunch of proof to which you'd counter with a bunch of theories? Not really, it gets no where. After attending numerous lectures and taking a class or two in the fundamentals of science, I can clearly say that all thought of creationism as a science (which I had previously held) has been wiped and erased. I used to think that creationism is a form of science, like you, until one day I looked at what they were saying and realized it just didn't fit.

Take that for what you will, because, again, I don't care to re-hash an argument that has been done a thousand times on other forums.

My favorite line from those pages:

Of course. Carbon dating can never work, can it? Just like gravity doesn't exist, there's no oxygen in the air, and water isn't wet.

Come on. We've proven that carbon will ALWAYS decompose at the same rate. Therefore, judgeing by the amount of carbon left in an organism (or other organic compound), we can trace its age fairly accurately based on that rate of decomposition. Or is there no such thing as carbon?

Sorry for all the sarcasm, but that was one of the main things that leads me not to believe anything written on the page.

-IMP ;) :)

I sure as hell hope this website is a joke.

TrueChristian.com


Note: This website was made by a raving fanatic with nazi tendencies. It contains racist, sexist and homophobic messages that you might will find offensive. No wonder why it was once censored for hateful propaganda.

That HAS to be a joke. Oh please let it be, just read this page:

http://truechristian.com/earthflat.html

I swear it is a joke. It definitely is.

The drawings are amazing.

I present The Earth:


I present The Orbit of the Celestial Bodies:

Halleluiah! Despite the overwhealming evidence that states otherwise, those drawings disprove all other scientific theories.

Just for equal opportunity, I thought I might throw in a bit of Evolution Humor as well.

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