Friedrich Nietzshe was one of the most influential philosophers of modern history and had a lot to say about religion. I'm going to just list a few quotes of his, respond with whatever, I'm not trying to make a point here, so make your own.

Alright, whats the direction/purpose of this topic?

Wow, all of those things, I agree with. Except, I don't think God is dead, I think there never was a God. Same for heaven.

I don't think that Nietzshe meant that God was once a living thing, then died (just like how I don't think Satre thought that God was around, then abandoned us). I believe what Nietzshe was refering to when he said, "God is dead," is that God, as a social force in Europe, somthing that dictated moral, ethics, love and reasoning, was dead.

Ah, I see. Well, in a way, I suppose God is dead, yes.

Mmm, as a social force in the United States I believe that "God" is very much alive.

I suppose it varies actually... because there are huge groups of people rallying together to talk abouit, and pray to, God. But there are also places that are balanced on the other end of the scale.

Actually, what Nietzsche was saying was that we are living in the Twilight of the Gods and that we have killed God. He did not mean anthing about a moral force of the West.
When he says the Twilight of the Gods, he means that we have entered into a state of nihilism, into nothingness. There is no good, there is no beauty, there is no truth. Everything is relative. And thus, we have killed God.
And how have we killed God? By putting our values above His.

Only once before have we lived in the Twilight of the Gods. Recall ancient Greece around 500 BC. It was in a state of chaotic nihilism as well. The Pre-Socratics and Socrates helped to stir a change from Mythos into Logos, but it wasn't enough and it was the masses who killed Socrates. We are in the same state as ancient Greece.

Since we're talking about Nietzsche, I'll add in a couple more (rough) quotes of his.

"Only Gods and animals are beyind good and evil."

"Freedom is dancing in chains."

I'll let you all try to interpret these before I explain them.

Another interpretation of it, but one that I don't fully subscribe to after I read his works. I feel that Nietzshe made the statement that "God is dead" as a response to what he saw as the death of moral western force, which you interepreted as the "Twilight of the Gods."

Okay, yes, you're right. I didn't think about that when I wrote it.
I do agree that Nietzsche meant God is dead because of the loss and corruption of the Western moral force, but what I was explaining was how Nietzsche said we killed God.

What now?
"Twilight of the Gods" is Nietzsche's phrase, not mine.



And, I'm sorry, but I have to point this out. You're spelling "Nietzsche" wrong.

True enough, you where just building on what I said, I gotcha, I misinterpreted what you said.

Right, which is why I'm saying thats how you interpret it.

I love to point this out: I don't care. :P
Come Kirtar, you've known me long enough ;)

Not really. At first I was disagreeing, but then I realized we were basically saying the same thing, I just built off of it, as you said.

Oh okay... misunderstanding.

Oh, no. Don't get me wrong. I knew you wouldn't give a damn.
But you're also known me long enough to know I point out those things. :)