So assume there's some massive, undeniable revelation, and it's made clear to humanity that God really does exist. It's the Christian God, more specifically (since I'm most familiar with Catholicism) it's the Catholic God.

BAM! That's it, there's no more question about it, He's real.

So, do you then decide to worship him? Devote yourself to Catholicism?

Being born and raised Catholic... sure why not?

Hehe, understandable.

Though personally, I don't know if I like someone being in charge of me just because.

Nah, I wouldn't worship him, ask him for help...but not worship. What would be the point?

Poeple of other religions would not believe you though.

Well if it were the Catholic God of love and mercy, I'm pretty sure we'd all be moved and would WANT to worship Him.

Also, He wouldn't necessarily be "in charge" of you. Again, if it's the Catholic God, then you at least have free will.

It depends. To be entirely honest, I don't enjoy the thought of humbling myself before any being, and I would have to have some more proof of what he is, what is intentions are, not what mans interpetations of his thoughts are, before I would even consider worship.

The point I'm trying to get through is what happens when you take the "faith" part out of religion? Yeah, there really is a supreme being who created man and the universe.

I really don't know if I would like God if he existed.

I don't really think that a massive, undeniable revelation could possibly exist without altering the nature of the universe and the nature of humanity.

Of course, the closest you're probably going to get already happened when God revealed himselves to the Israelites on Mt. Sinai... :lol:

I would never considering worshipping another being, no matter how divine or all powerful. It is against my principles to surrender myself like that.

I would never worship any one as it is against my principles

Well, if God is truth itself, then it's a strange paradox that you find yourself in.

You don't have to surrender yourself to truth...

That would be true, but strange...

Im catholic, yes I would worship him, but see its not the type of worsship where you kneel down in front of him for hours upon hours. Its a worship of prayer and respect to life.

I am still very unsure on how I see and define God, but I love this quote from Carl Sagan that I just read (and sums up my feelings when my agnosticism shifts to atheist shades):

"The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."

ha! that's a good one. Although you might still pray to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

I'm not going to worship anyone or anything if they weren't to tell me to so forget about if they were to threaten me. (don't accept me then to hell you go)

The closest I would come is to respect or admire someone. That is very hard to do and judging by some of the rules in christianity I would actually look down at such a god.

Back a while ago, psycholopher and I where talking about "what is God"

I thought it would be an interesting read to someone who belives in a God, but not sure about the form it might take:

http://s6.invisionfree.com/Politics_and_Pr...topic=132&st=15

The appearance of God for the most part (robe like clothes, beard, white as in his race, and that he even has hair at all). God is "white" in some sense, but not as in it's his race. It's a white as in light without darkness.

The law of gravity isn't a being. I'm not sure how people could take "G"od as described in the Bible to be physical laws of the universe.

God usually does miracles through faith. You can't gain faith with miracles, and since we aren't God (his ways being higher, while we can still understand a good bit of most of his actions) we must have a trust and faith in him for things we can't always understand completely. This is why I think that God doesn't rain fire out of heaven everyday to gain believers, he gives use a choice (and having a choice isn't bad is it? Would it be better if you were a mechanical being programmed to the key?). God knows what we will eventaully choose (or not choose, which is just as bad in his eyes), but that doesn't mean he doesn't let us choose it first. Would it make more sense to punish every last person before they were born?

I heard a Buddhist say "Check it out for yourself, and then if you can accept it, accept it". I guess that means you believe what you want, God or no God. I'm a Christian, a Lutheran to be specific. I would like it if God finally revealed himself cause that would kill any doubt in me, but i don't know what i'd do if he made Caothlicism the "official" way.

I've heard people say that they wouldn't worship God because they had not seen him, hadn't had any proof, and didn't know beyond any doubt that he exists. So... what would it take? Do you think God is laughing at some of us right now because some people think God himself will make an appearance to every individual human being on this earth? And would one time be enough? And would he say anything specific you were expecting? Should we make an event out of it so that he could "drop-by" once a day around noon before we eat lunch? But then that's not enough still. People ask for a sign, but is it really all they want and then they'll fall down and worship God? I dunno, it just seems like even when God does enough and even more than enough... there is still a complaint.

I'm with Deltasix on this one. I don't think I'd "worship" him, or anyone else, but I think that if God's existence could be proven without a doubt, I'd respect him and admire him. Possibly come to him for help, but probably not. I like to help myself if I can.

-IMP ;) :)

Does God need to be worshipped?

I don't see God as a human-like mind with emotions, and I don't think He feels the need to be worshipped.

Could you explain your statement a little more?

I view God as an order (a 'mechanism') that directs the universe, not a mind. I don't think He can feel emotions or that He has human weaknesses like arrogance.

Expecting to be worshipped would be arrogance.

I was also raised Lutheran.

Now, assuming that a higher being was responsible for creating all of man kind, which is what I believe, and it asked to be worshiped, I would. Why? Because it fucking created me, I wouldn't be so arrogant as to say "I don't owe you shit".

Having said that, I agree with Che Guevara, in that whatever created us really doesn't care if we worship it or not. If it did, I would go ahead and do so.

But God having mercy and empathy isn't bad, is it? And why would you think God would have human weakness to feel emotion?

Expecting to be worship isn’t arrogance if he’s God, that would only be arrogance if it was another human being asking for such a thing. He’s the one and only thing that should be worshipped. Arrogance would be his creation refusing to even acknowledge him in any active form whatsoever. And I say active because a feeling of realization isn't a physical or verbal action.

Why? Why is it arrogance if any other living thing wants to be worshiped, but it's not arrogant for a God to want to be worshiped? Even if he does exist, why does the definition bend only for him and nothing/no one else?

And the "because he created us" answer doesn't work. My parents created me, does that mean it's not arrogant for them to want me to worship them?

-IMP ;) :)

Your parents didn't create themselves, they weren't always in existance from before the beginning of time. They are not the single source of everything in existance. That's why.

And your point is? You mean to say that since He's always existed (Assuming, for the sake of the debate, that He does exist), and He created everything, He has the right to demand worship from everyone?

Scientists are making quick progress in designing DNA for living organisms from non-living nucleotides-from scratch. If scientists create all the organisms of, say, 100 or so new species, would it be alright for the scientists to demand worship from these species? After all, the scientists existed way before any of the organisms did, and they created all of the organisms.

-IMP ;) :)

That's not all he did. The Holy Bible describes God as knowing even the minor details of individual's lives so he's a little more involved than you make it sound. The way you worded it makes it sound like you think God finished all he's ever going to do, just sits back, and is horrible for ever wanting to be worshiped.

Well, I'd like to see that happen. I love how scientists are always saying they're making "quick progress" regardless of what it is they're working on. It makes me wonder. I won't even ask how credible this is.

To answer your question: Everything we do, we do with what God gave us. Scientists work with existing elements. They are not the sole source to credit for everything. If man creates using things that God created and the knowledge that God gave him, who really deserves the credit? Scientists don't speak a universe and living beings into existence nor did they exist before anything was created.