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Title: The 10th Planet
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RancerDS - February 3, 2006 02:51 AM (GMT)
For all of my years, it's been taught that there are 9 planets orbiting our sun. Well, guess what school-kids... looks like we are either going to have to demote Pluto or simply add the bigger astrological body as our 10th planet.

BBC news link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4667100.stm

Lorpius Prime - February 6, 2006 04:09 AM (GMT)
I'm joining the "Pluto is not a planet" camp.

RancerDS - February 16, 2006 06:06 AM (GMT)
So technically, you feel we still have 9 plants in our solar system or are you dropping the total to 8?

Keys - February 20, 2006 02:40 PM (GMT)
I'll leave it to those who study this stuff to classify it. It's not surprising that relative galactic measurements are going to need to be adjusted as we actually learn more about what's out there. We've only explored so very little of what's obviously out there let alone the less than obvious. This shouldn't become a social issue. What we learn today doesn't change any importance in the past.

TheTwo - February 20, 2006 06:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keys @ Feb 20 2006, 09:40 AM)
I'll leave it to those who study this stuff to classify it. It's not surprising that relative galactic measurements are going to need to be adjusted as we actually learn more about what's out there. We've only explored so very little of what's obviously out there let alone the less than obvious. This shouldn't become a social issue. What we learn today doesn't change any importance in the past.

I agree

maxnight1189 - May 28, 2006 03:54 PM (GMT)
from what ive heard, we're gonna have to up the number to like 20-someting if we accept "Planet X" as part of out solar system cuz theres a whole bunch of planets similar to it in an area beyond pluto that is coming to be known as the Kuniper Belt. I say they're all "Kuniper Objects" and then all the school kiddies can be happy once again.

Deltasix - June 7, 2006 04:02 PM (GMT)
The contemporary definition of "planet" is ambiguous and ill-defined. I think we need to rethink that before actually rethinking what is and isn't a planet.

Deltasix - August 24, 2006 02:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RancerDS @ Feb 16 2006, 02:06 AM)
So technically, you feel we still have 9 plants in our solar system or are you dropping the total to 8?

Apparently alot of people thought that:

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Pluto Is No Longer a Planet, Astronomers Say

By William J. Kole
Associated Press
Thursday, August 24, 2006; 9:46 AM


PRAGUE, Czech Republic (AP) -- Leading astronomers declared Thursday that Pluto is no longer a planet under historic new guidelines that downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight.

After a tumultuous week of clashing over the essence of the cosmos, the International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930. The new definition of what is -- and isn't -- a planet fills a centuries-old black hole for scientists who have labored since Copernicus without one.

Although astronomers applauded after the vote, Jocelyn Bell Burnell -- a specialist in neutron stars from Northern Ireland who oversaw the proceedings -- urged those who might be "quite disappointed" to look on the bright side.

"It could be argued that we are creating an umbrella called 'planet' under which the dwarf planets exist," she said, drawing laughter by waving a stuffed Pluto of Walt Disney fame beneath a real umbrella.

The decision by the prestigious international group spells out the basic tests that celestial objects will have to meet before they can be considered for admission to the elite cosmic club.

For now, membership will be restricted to the eight "classical" planets in the solar system: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Much-maligned Pluto doesn't make the grade under the new rules for a planet: "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's.

Instead, it will be reclassified in a new category of "dwarf planets," similar to what long have been termed "minor planets." The definition also lays out a third class of lesser objects that orbit the sun -- "small solar system bodies," a term that will apply to numerous asteroids, comets and other natural satellites.

It was unclear how Pluto's demotion might affect the mission of NASA's New Horizons spacecraft, which earlier this year began a 961/27-year journey to the oddball object to unearth more of its secrets.

The decision at a conference of 2,500 astronomers from 75 countries was a dramatic shift from just a week ago, when the group's leaders floated a proposal that would have reaffirmed Pluto's planetary status and made planets of its largest moon and two other objects.

That plan proved highly unpopular, splitting astronomers into factions and triggering days of sometimes combative debate that led to Pluto's undoing.

Now, two of the objects that at one point were cruising toward possible full-fledged planethood will join Pluto as dwarfs: the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted, and 2003 UB313, an icy object slightly larger than Pluto whose discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, has nicknamed Xena.

Charon, the largest of Pluto's three moons, is no longer under consideration for any special designation.

blizzard - August 24, 2006 05:36 PM (GMT)
Yeah, screw Pluto!

Ahem. Anyways, I say we should be trying to include more planets in our solar system. That way if any aliens invade, we can just be like, "Dude, we have fifteen planets in our solar system. What you going to do now?!"

Deltasix - August 24, 2006 06:23 PM (GMT)
I quite agree, though not only for the reason of alein invasion. It would seem to me that we should be trying to get more planets with us, not less.

Zairik - August 25, 2006 04:09 AM (GMT)
Aww.

Now we have to find new ways to remember the planets >_<

I remember:
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MVEMJSUNP: My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas

RancerDS - August 25, 2006 06:45 AM (GMT)
How about using

MVEMJSUN: My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Niceties? If we have to, we can always append UB-313 to the original if we go with 10 planets. We just have to be reminded that it's not a submarine.

IceMetalPunk - August 25, 2006 09:15 PM (GMT)
According to my local newspaper this morning, Pluto has officially been demoted from a planet into a "dwarf planet", and UB-313 is now officially considered a planet.

Hopefully UB-313's name will be changed :lol:

-IMP ;) :)

Zairik - August 25, 2006 11:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IceMetalPunk @ Aug 25 2006, 05:15 PM)
Hopefully UB-313's name will be changed :lol:

-IMP ;) :)

Heh, or make names like that for all the planets. ^_^

Then no one would be able to remember the planets!

Che Guevara - August 26, 2006 12:59 AM (GMT)
What I found slightly dumb was the fact that some people wanted to keep Pluto amongst the planets just because it's the only planet that has been discovered by an American... Now, politics and patriotism get mixed up with science. How stupid. <_<

Deltasix - August 26, 2006 01:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Che Guevara @ Aug 25 2006, 08:59 PM)
What I found slightly dumb was the fact that some people wanted to keep Pluto amongst the planets just because it's the only planet that has been discovered by an American...  Now, politics and patriotism get mixed up with science.  How stupid.  <_<

Actually, I found most of them wanted to keep it because it was the name of Micky Mouse's dog, not because it was found by an American. Furthermore, I've yet to hear anyone cite that arugment.

As for the Micky Mouse arguement, meh, works for me. Its about as set in logic as any theories surrounding this.

Zairik - August 26, 2006 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deltasix @ Aug 25 2006, 09:04 PM)
QUOTE (Che Guevara @ Aug 25 2006, 08:59 PM)
it's the only planet that has been discovered by an American...

Cool, I never knew that.


Now this is halarious, Steven Colbert says he "I CALLED IT!" that Pluto would stay a planet. ^_^
Video: Stephen Colbert and Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Woops?

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SNAP!!



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